episode 12 live - practical tips you can implement to find a job

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or some listeners. What's going on y'all? Welcome to Guy's Council 2.0, the live edition. I'm 30 minutes late this morning. This morning's a little busy, newborn things. Y'all know how it goes. So I wanted to kind of chat just for a few minutes. And obviously throw questions up, right? Questions, comments, throw them up on this, comment at me. Please, again, this is a therapy session, right? I probably should like change this like therapist 2.0 or something like that, right? Public therapy. There's actually a bar in my hometown called Group Therapy. I think that's very clever. So a few more shout outs for, we get started.

Shout out to my marketing team, Alex Pooler Design. He has done all of this stuff, these things, these things. Alex Pooler Design at gmail.com. Shout out to Summer and Livington. Summer is fantastic. You can check around in LinkedIn. That's LIDD. She is going to be redoingtailidescent.com. It is going to be awesome. Shout out to you, skeleton Drew. Does a lot of my audio and video editing. And then also of course, my main man Brandon R.V. with Brandon 78 up in Leicester, Kentucky. Check him out. He was a small business or just an individual like me who wants to use somebody to start putting out content at a very low cost.

He is your guy. So all of my stuff is headed up by Brandon R.V. Brandon 78's to check them out. Cool. Enough for shout outs. Let's go ahead and dive into the show again. Thank you for tuning the guidance counselor 2.0. One more time. If you want to comment, questions at me, please do. I'll throw it up on the screen. If you want to join my texting community, text me, 615-525-4006. Actually, that's my personal number. I need to change that. That's not really, that is my, you, you text my personal number too. But I'll throw my texting community up there as well if you want job tips sent to your phone.

So today's session is on practical tips and tricks on how to find a job. Very basic. We're not going to get a super bear, a super like detail oriented stuff. It's just some things that I like, I want to share with people. So the first thing I want to share that I'm just like super passionate about. And I think I've maybe already shared it, but it makes the, it gives me goosebumps, it gives me goosebumps. Is I would, I would be C.C. where I post this on LinkedIn as a written post. I would use the B.C.C. on an email. Now a lot of people like what is B.C.C.

I don't know what it stands for. If you know what B.C.C. stands for, please comment at me. I don't have no idea what B.C.C. means. But if you use the B.C.C. basically it hides other people's emails. What I would do is I would get your top recruiters that you trust or that you can tolerate, I like to say. And so so you are, you know, over the holidays, you're, you know, going through the job postings online and you're like it and you're like, oh, I found something I like, right? Before don't submit your resume. Don't submit your resume. I'm merely going to that email chain.

In email, those five recruiters or three recruiters or how many recruiters I would do multiple and see if they are either A. working on that job or B. No one knows somebody at that job. I will always make introductions. Blind carbon copy, Amy coming in with the clutch. Thank you, Amy, that makes total sense. I have no idea why I did not know that. So thank you, Amy, for coming in with that. Are a blind carbon copy. Again, I will, thank you. I don't know what I could do without Amy and Brandon in my life, I appreciate you all. So that would be the first thing.

And so here's why that's so big and why I'm so passionate about that is because I, so over the pandemic, over the last eight, nine months, I listen, I'm not perfect. There are developers that have messaged me and be like, hey, man, I see this recruiter called me about this roller you working on. I'm like, actually, I am. And so for me, it got me, I was like, man, what's a way that I could share with other people that they could like keep me in the loop? So selfishly, it's to keep me in the loop too. And so the one thing I thought about is like, listen, like, recruiters should always be willing to like make introductions, give you leads, even if they're not working on something.

Again, if they're not willing to do that, don't work with them because that means they are a shitty recruiter. So what I would do though is I would BCC blind carbon copy those five recruiters say, hey, listen, solve this. Please let me know if you're working on this opportunity. And I think that's huge. I think that can revolutionize your job search to be totally frank with you. I think that could absolutely revolutionize your job search. So that's one thing I would do. Another thing, just a few other tips, I would have a job seeking email, right? I don't know about y'all, but I'm getting a ton of email Christmas things.

You don't want to mix that in with your professional job seeking emails, right? You don't want to be emailing back your return on Zappos and accidentally send it to the hiring manager. He does not care about your shoe size or what color you did you ordered the wrong shoes in, right? So you need to make sure you keep that separate. That made me laugh. So yeah, you need to make sure you keep that separate. So have a professional job seeking email, right? And then what I would do too is I would have a tool or some sort of flow chart to keep up with where you're at in the process with everything, right?

And so whether that's Excel, there's a tool that I was recommended by JobSeekron Twitter called Hunter HUNTR, I think. So check that out. Supposedly, it's like a project management tool. We use my marketing team. Personally, Alex Summer, Drew and Brandon, we use something called Asana. It's a very simple shout out Brandon for mentioning that or bringing that to the table. Asana, ASA and A, very simple. You can use it just personally. It's very easy to track things. So, you know, and then I get the question, it's like, all right, what do I need to put? Like what columns do I need to do? Right? So what I would do is I would say first off the company, right?

I would, I would have a card and that would say, you know, where you got an interview, phone interview, second round interview, possible third round interview offer acceptance, right? So that's what I would do. And then I'd make sure you always keep up with, is it the recruiter? Is it through internal HR? Is it on your own? Like you need to kind of keep that straight. And also to, hey, listen, I'm going to listen, listen. Take some, take some dang time and keep up with what recruiter's submitting you where. It's lazy. It's lazy as a job seeker. Like recruiters get a bad rep, right? Recruiters get a bad rep and I get it.

I understand why we do, but y'all job seeker sometimes are lazy as hell. It's lazy, so lazy. Yeah, go ahead and submit me that job opportunity. And then like that recruiter works for you. Right, because again, we got to prep your resume. We got to do references. We got to possibly test you. We got to format, you know what I'm saying? And then we got to submit your resume. And then we got to go through all these steps to only find out you aren't even submitted. Like sometimes, sometimes I get angry with that. I get angry. I'm working doing in counseling. All right, so again, don't be lazy.

Know where your resume is. Who's representing you, et cetera? I'm going to catch up on some comments. Tracy, yes, Hunter is a great, is great to use to track job search activities. Awesome, thank you for affirming me, Tracy. I appreciate that. Always on point, Kathy. I thank you. I appreciate that. So two things. So two questions I got. First thing is Amy. Amy is always coming in clutch with tell me what BCC is. Thank you, Amy. What is the best way to get genuine feedback after an interview? So this is good, right? This is really good. Many people struggle with this. I've had a bunch of people email me lately about hey, they're not getting feedback from recruiters or hiring managers.

Listen, this is part of the issue of hiring, right? In my perspective, if you are too busy to email back or call back feedback to the candidate, your process is broken. Let me say that one more time for the hiring managers who are listening or HR individuals who are listening now or may listen to this later. If you do not have time to be respectful to the job seeker and let them know why they were passed on, your process is broken. Now, if you are watching this and you've worked with me, you're a little tailor, you haven't let me know something. You're right, because we don't.

You will be amazed 90% of the time companies don't give us feedback. And we ask for it. And we ask for it. If I have feedback, I will tell you the majority of the time we do not. And that stinks and I apologize if I have done that to you if you're watching. So Amy, in regards to getting specific feedback, stay on it, right? Please stay on it. Continue to continue to follow up. If after a few emails, unfortunately, you're just gonna have to leave it. Danny, Danny, my man. Danny, what's up, dude? Taylor, exclamation mark. Danny's always jacked up. I love it. I wish I had half the energy Danny has.

Taylor, one of the biggest things I do is set a thank you email after you last, like a last chance to make a greater first impression. Or your third, yeah. So here's kind of a thing that we can talk about. So if you have an interview with your recruiter, we technically, it is faux pas to send an email to the manager not through us. So if you are interviewed with a recruiter, please send a thank you email to the recruiter, make sure that the recruiter sends it on. And make sure the recruiter does that stay on them. But I love that idea. I'm actually interested.

Higher managers, if anybody in a hiring position sees this or watches this right now, please comment at me. If a thank you letter has changed your mind or health. This may be a whole other conversation. We may go around and hold here, but that's also why I like to do this thing. I don't think, thank you letters help. Minds are already made up, but that's just my experience. So again, I'm honestly like really, really genuinely interested. If you have been in a hiring or you're a job seeker and you feel like a thank you email has helped you, please let me know, because I'm genuinely curious, because I don't think it matters.

I don't think, I don't think it's good. I think absolutely do it. I don't think it matters. But my thought is is getting genuine feedbacks hard. That's why building a relationship with the recruiter is incredibly important. Right? Because if you know the recruiter and you trust them and they go, hey, listen, I don't have feedback, you know that that's a hiring manager's fault. If you're working with a ton of recruiters and you have no relationships and they never give you feedback, how do you trust them? You can't. That's why building a relationship with the recruiter is essential to your career. A few more comments. Again, I love this.

I feel like we may have something. So keep commenting, keep adding me. I'll throw it up here. Hold on. Brandon, yours is getting lost. What skills should I be thinking about as I help my three year old develop? A lot. Be fearless in asking and networking. Be comfortable in their own skin. And know how to use a computer. There we go. Jay Stoner, 420. I like it. I like your tip about having a separate email and only use a professional sounding email. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Another user, genuine feedback, LinkedIn user again, sorry. I can't see you. genuine feedback can be hard to put across, can be hard to put across.

But I always share what I get from the interviewers. So it can't, can you better the job search and be prepared for other interviews? Yeah, again, exactly. Right? Exactly. If the recruiter gets it, if you trust the recruiter, please share the feedback if not be truthful. Todd, team interviews. At the end of the week, when we are reviewing it is a discuss who followed up and is generally interested in job. Yeah, I love that. I love that. I love that team interviews at the end of the week when we are reviewing it is discuss who followed up and show you. Yeah, cool. Awesome. Danny again, oh, that's interesting.

I'd love to hear feedback on that as well, especially low-craft email, reinforcement positives. From interview, I thought I would be a good fit, good and felt that way. Up to me on that Taylor. I may make a post ask them that as well. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Danny, 100%. Yeah, I'll let you know again, if you were watching this and a thank you letter has helped you in any way, shape or form, please comment or email me afterwards, tailitvaco.com or text me. Thanks, me. Cool. So those are some tips and tricks. I would also too, again, make sure you have a good workflow for me, right?

So again, if you're driving a lot of activity on LinkedIn and Twitter, like take those DMs, take those leads and throw them into the Excel document, hunter, whatever using to find a job, you need all in one place, it can get hairy. Also, again, have your recruiters on a BCC blind, carbon copy email chain. Send them leads, get, again, continue to send them. Don't submit your resume until you hear from them, because they should give you at least 24 hours. Yeah, and those are my two main tips and tricks right there. I would say those are a good building blocks for you to kind of get things rolling in the job search.

If you have any other tips and tricks, please comment now. I'd love to hear from you. Maybe something I'm missing. Another thing too, I would, oh, here's one. I would download the tool, Calamly. I am not sponsored by Calamly. Calamly, if you are, so there's some how it gets to you. I'd love to be sponsored. I think there are tools single-handedly elevated my production to X is a recruiter, because I coordinate so many meetings day in day out. That is so much back and forth. So if I were you, if I was a job seeker, go to Calamly, like Calamder, Calamly, C-A-L-E-N-D-L-Y, create an account it's free.

You can do one and schedule and use the link, create a link for like a seven minute call. Again, I joke and say, hey, ask for the two and a half minute phone call. Ask for the five minute phone call. Ask for the one and a half minute phone call. Right, use a little joke if you're trying to network over the holidays, because again, no one's going to want to talk to you. I don't want to talk to anybody for 15 minutes. Nobody. If you want to talk to me, you got about three and a half minutes. And that will mean to be rude. It's just, there's a lot going on.

Danny, I shot Danny Thompson again. Danny posted a post to the post, like listen, just because if I don't get back to you, step because I'm not mad or I don't like you, I just don't have time. So again, be specific. And also, hey, can we talk or hey, can I have a few minutes of your time? No, you cannot have a few minutes of my time. Can I have a minute and 45 seconds of your time? I like this guy. I like this girl. They're funny. Sure. Yes, you can have a minute and 45 seconds of my time. Right. That's going to go so much better.

So use that in the county link. Let that person use the county link. So there's not all this back and forth. Right? Because people are like, hey, Taylor, it's all this messaging back and forth. And I just honestly stop messing. I don't have time. Like, I don't have time. Just don't have time. So use the county link. That's going to also get you more interviews as well and more people willing to book a call with you. So any other thoughts, please comment. Yeah, Jay Stoner again. That's good for networking too. Can I get five minutes every time? Yeah, five minutes. Honestly, I'd go shorter. Three and a half minutes.

Be specific on that. Cool. Awesome. I'm going to stay on here for another minute or two. We will finish the day out with a little dance, dance vibes or in the woods. If you have any comments, any other job tips, I will stop the music. It is rested. But again, thank you for tuning to Guy's Council 2.0. I appreciate you. I appreciate all the comments. Again, sorry for being 30 minutes late. I should be on time tomorrow at nine. Maybe a few minutes late. And again, nine, nine, 30 is kind of where the magic happens. Again, I go live on LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube. So set some sort of notification if you want it.

Again, I'm here for you. Text me email me at TaylorVaker.com. Again, thank you so much for tuning to Guy's Council 2.0. Y'all have a good one. And we will catch up tomorrow.