guidance counselor 2.0 · episode 28
gone are the days of staying at one company forever
key takeaways
- include short job stints on your resume if you gained relevant skills; explain the reason in interviews.
- average job duration is around one to two years; shorter stints are normal for contract or project work.
- staying at one company for years isn't bad if you show growth, innovation, and new skills learned.
- when listing long tenure at one company, document your promotions and role changes on resume and linkedin.
- employers reject candidates who can't explain job transitions; preparation and storytelling matter most.
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Hey everyone, thank you again for tuning in. Julio, I can always count on you. What's up buddy? Good morning from Houston, Texas. Thank you for everybody for tuning in this morning to guidance counselor 2.0. Caffea, good morning. Thanks for tuning in. So we're talking Isaac. What's up buddy from Nigeria. I love it man. Thanks for tuning in. So I'm more international today. Also shout out Target. I'm doing a little, but I'm not sponsored by anybody. A shout out Target. Target's got like a new men's line. And their athletic gear is just fantastic. So shout out Target. Target if you're watching, we love to sponsor. We'll love to be sponsored.
So anyways, guys, guys, catch 2.0 before we get dive in two things. First off, if you're a hiring manager and you hate your recruiting firms, I want to work with you this year. I've already had some interest from hiring managers in the DMs. So if you want to work this year, I love to work with you. So please hit me up. Next thing, shout out to my amazing team Alex Pooler. Alex Pooler Design at gmail.com. He does my email newsletter. That's about to get sent out. Actually, I'm going to change, work on my blinds real quick. Hold on. There we go. So I shout out Alex Pooler Design.
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So first off, I want to do this. Gone are the days of staying the same job for your entire career. And I'd be fascinated to do some reading, but I hate reading. So if anybody has any reading material, I can skim over. I'm interested when that shift happened. I think it's gone to the days of working in the mills and the coal mines and all that. And because you stayed there, because it was steady. Now every job is kind of steady. And so I think that probably promoted, obviously moving around. But I think the big thing is that I want to get across today. If you have to hop off, or if I have to hop off, I'd baby do this morning.
That essentially, that it's okay that you're jumping around. So but I think the big thing that I want to get across to is that it's all about storytelling. So when it comes to moving jobs, when it comes to moving within your career, I get a lot of questions like Taylor, I had this job for like six months and I hated it and I had to bounce. Should I include on my resume? My answer to you is yes. I think you need to put it on your resume. If it has pertinent skill set that you picked up or learned and you need to just be able to talk about it.
I think the biggest thing is that you need to be able to discuss in the interview with your new employer, what happened, what went wrong, and be able to tell that story. Because a lot of people get in interviews and like, hey, tell me about this company you work for. It was a little short stint and they go, I mean, just wasn't good. Well, I wasn't a good, I just wasn't good. You're like, all right, dude, all right, girl. Okay, and it's just weird, it's red flags. But if you can go in interview and be like, hey, listen, I had the manager and I didn't see I had the manager was like really big on my command gene.
I didn't love my command gene. I kind of work well by myself. My manager and I had multiple conversations about this. We decided to part ways. That's just a better story. People are going to receive that better in the interview and they're not going to reject you in interviews. So I think that's the big thing they want to get across as well. One, that it's okay to bounce around jobs and your career gone to the days we stay at the same place. And two, two, if you include something on your resume where you have shorter stint jobs, then like let's talk about that in the interview process and be in compared with some ammunition in regards to telling a story.
I think the biggest thing with career hopping and jumping around is that it's okay if you can tell a story the entire time. But I can't tell you how many times I interview people that have bounced around a time. I kind of ask them some questions. I don't really dig in. I just say, hey, what about this? What about this? What about this? And if they can't answer that's a red flag for me. So if you want to elevate your job search, if you want to elevate how you interview, understand and tell a story, paint a picture. I was about to say paint a story.
Paint a picture, tell a story of why you bounced around with jobs. I get a lot of questions around, hey Taylor, what's the average stint? Like what's the average duration that you're seeing? I mean, listen, I see, if you're a career contractor, I see guys and girls going like one month, three months, that's normal. That's another thing you need to know, to take advantage of. If it's a contract job, if it's a shorter term job, if it is a project based job, no take that on your resume. No take that somewhere on your resume. That's a contract job. And maybe in a bullet point, you can say like, hey, you know, contract job for a few weeks.
But it's really important to note take that. I also think too, from a job search perspective, that you need to be able to, from a perm perspective, oh, I'm sorry, I had, I got distracted by it. So I was speaking to say, a national software school. And I just got a message about, presumably. So I got distracted. So all that being said, tell a story, make sure you rotate it properly, but when it comes to the duration of the job, I see the average, the average is around a year and a half, two years, year and a half, two years. Now, I get a lot, the other question, I get a ton of like, hey Taylor, let's say I stay at the same job for 10 years.
Does that hurt me? No, that does not hurt you. Stay at the same job for 10 years. Does not hurt you. You know what? It does hurt you is not innovating, not learning new skills, not costly being a player, student of the game, I messed up all my sayings, player of the game, student of the game. It's not learning, right? I see individual state companies for 10 years, which tells me obviously that like team player bought into the company, but then you're working on tech that's been like, expired for five, 10 years now. I'm not gonna make a tech joke because I have people kind of dog pile on me on what's all tech.
But just say, working on cobalt, right? If you're working on cobalt for the last 10 years, like you're not gonna get a lot of jobs. And so my biggest thing is you need to innovate. If you're at the company for a very long time, you need to innovate. Also, if you're at a company for a very long time, you need to make sure that you notate your career advancement within the company. So many times people on LinkedIn, people on resumes just say, hey, I have the same company for six years and I've held this title. No, you haven't. You have not been a senior developer for all six years.
Probably were a developer one, developer two, three, senior, technically, whatever. No, take that. Again, storytelling, resume writing, storytelling, there's resume writing is about storytelling. And UI UX marketing, right? And I've talked about that and we'll talk about it again. I'll see what I'm talking about, resume writing, because I've done a ton of resumes lately. But all that being said, innovate at your company that you've been at for a long time, don't stay stagnant, notate those things, notate your career advancement within your company on LinkedIn and your resume. And that's all I got for you today. That was it. Pretty short to the point. I've also, this is a great song.
But all that being said, thank you for tuning in to Guy and Scott's with 2.0. If you like what you heard, follow me on LinkedIn, share this post on LinkedIn. I'd love that to continue to build brand, continue to build a community on LinkedIn. That's kind of what I'm going on. The other questions about the jobs are tuning in out tailored vehicle.com. Join my texting community, 615-235-5-6-5-0. Check out my website, my big-co-website. Tailorats.com is gonna be well-out-sued. But again, big things today to recap again, if you're just turning in to job search. First thing, it's okay to bounce around jobs. Two, if you do bounce around jobs, make sure you can tell straight away.
You left average duration of the year, around one to two years. If you're at the same company for multiple years, please show that you've risen through the ranks and you're linking in your resume that you've grown. And also, innovate. You can fit the same company to more than two years. Please innovate. Thank you for tuning in. Tomorrow, I'm gonna go live with the boys at Unicorn Finders at 1030, at 930 Central, 1030 Eastern. I hope to see you there. Thank you all for tuning in. I appreciate it.