guidance counselor 2.0 · episode 92
the intangibles of the job search
key takeaways
- respond to rejection emails with gratitude and grace to stay top of mind for future openings
- avoid venting negatively on social media since recruiters can see your comments on their profiles
- hiring managers often pick second or third choice candidates who showed the most kindness during interviews
- build depth in relationships with fewer people rather than width with many casual contacts
- deploy empathy consistently even when rejected because it shows your character as a person
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But I just want to do a little PSA for you all this morning. When it comes to the job search, a lot of companies right now are not getting their number ones. Quite frankly, they're not even getting their number twos. And so what I've really been thinking about and what I've been noticing, a lot of people on the job search who are kind, who are grateful, who are encouraging, who are uplifting, those are the ones that end up finding an opportunity. And so what I want to get across today is that it's not about really what you say. It's about just how you act. And again, you're probably watching, it's like Taylor, that's so simple.
I know that, but I don't think you do. So many times people in the job search are very, very negative. Now, I got in a Twitter conversation the other day about being able to event publicly. I do think you need to be able to express it on Twitter. Twitter is kind of this own ecosystem where you should feel comfortable being open and honest. But I would have to say is I would maybe find another outlet instead of Twitter, instead of social media. The reason why is because I see a lot on social media and I know other employers see a lot. And so like, I don't know if you knew this, but every time you comment on my live show, if you go to your page, I can see you comment on my live show.
So if you're commenting on other people's posts and not a very positive uplifting manner, and I'm a recruiter or not, I'm a hiring manager and I go to your profile, your LinkedIn profile, I can see where you're commenting. So just a little PSA for y'all this morning from that perspective. But I also think too, I don't think it's a great idea to be venting in public because what that does, it creates this all around you. I don't know how to describe it, but I constantly see people who are negative on the job search, who are struggling to find a job. If they tweet me, it's mainly negative, it's mainly critiquing.
And I know they're still looking for a job. I think there's a mentality shift that has to happen because what happens is when you're on the job search, it is a grind. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and say you're not allowed to have emotions. I am a big teddy bear. I cry at commercials, right? Like I'm all about, I'm a big, big, huggy, feely, touchy guy, right? It's like I understand having emotions, but I think when it comes down to the job search, you need to be reserved, especially on social media. And when I say social media, like that is the state of the internet now.
I got in the conversation and I don't want to get too far down. I don't want to get too far down on the marketing space. But like, I don't know if you noticed, but like when my wife and I are hanging out at dinner, it's like, hey, have you seen what this person posted on Instagram or I go, hey, do you see what this person posted on Twitter, right? And like our social media habits fuel our conversations. And so if you're out there putting negative comments or being negative, other people can see that. And if I'm a recruiter and I'm checking your profile out or I see you being negative on Twitter and you hit me up and you want to work with me, like I'm probably not going to work with you.
I'm probably not going to work with you. A few comments that have come in. Garrett, yes, I, this 100% can't believe the stuff that people comment on LinkedIn knowing that shows up in the profile. Yeah, big thing. Like every, if you comment on my live show, it's going to pop up on your profile. So again, definitely need to be conscientious about what you put. And again, I want you to have emotions. I think it's important to have emotions. But it may not be great to detail out every single bit of those emotions on social media, Oscar what's going on this morning, buddy. And so Sean, because I've been to my husband, not on social media for these reasons, never know who read the post.
Absolutely. I think that's great. Right. I, I, I've been to my wife, like I think that's good. I really think you need to be cautious because I will tell you this and, and the punchlines where I'm going for the punchline of where I'm going to rather is that companies don't get their first choice right now when it comes to the talent, when it comes to pure talent. The job, the job market's crazy. The jobsters are just crazy. We all know that can'ts are getting picked off left and right. And so a lot of times hiring managers don't get their first choice. A lot of times they don't get their second choice.
And so let me ask you this, let's say you're, you're, you're interviewing for a company. And you get rejected an email or, or, or, and, and it's a really nice email from the company. You respond back and which is why it's important to respond back. Right. It's very important because I think it shows your heart when it comes to the job search. I want to know about people's heart and, and, and what's in it. And, and, and in responding to rejection email is a way, is a way to show who you are as a person and to show the grace and compassion that you may possess.
And so a lot of times when it comes to getting rejected, you need to reply back to the hiring manager or back to HR and be very grateful. Hey, listen, thank you so much for taking time to speak with me. I've learned so much about your organization, your organization is top of my list to work for moving forward. Those are the things that you need to be aware of in commenting back to the person who rejects you through email because what happens is, so let's say this. Let's say, all right, this person got, I rejected this person. Oh no, our candidate backed out. But let's say you were number two or number three on the depth chart, right?
But you're, you first off, you're the only one that emailed him back. And second off, you were kind in your email. Who do you think they're probably going to call for the position? It's going to be you. It's going to be you. And so that's why I can't stress enough on this Monday morning, on this Monday morning to be kind, to be empathetic, to literally make sure that you reach out to those people and thank them. Listen, interviewings hard, right? Hiring managers, they don't know what they're doing. You've seen all my interviews so far and I'm having more interviews, right? Hiring managers don't know what they're doing.
And so if you can just be kind to them and say, hey, listen, you know what? Thank you so much for speaking to me. I appreciate it greatly. Best of luck moving forward. That is how you do it. That is the unlock. If you can start deploying empathy, being and deploying grace on the job search, even if you don't get it, I promise you if you are number two or number three on their list, they are going to call you or email you back immediately. A few more comments before we wrap up today. Again, this isn't going to be a long one. I just wanted to do a PSA because I see some people on the job search and it's grinding on them.
Right? I understand it is a lot, but I want to come to y'all live this morning to give you a little coaching, give you a little coaching. So Casey goes, when I post on social media, I try to abide by the same rule in a writing workshop. Criticism should only be voiced if it's a real immediate concern, but should always be accompanied by sincere suggestions to all the problem. Yeah, I'm big on this. I think Casey brings up a great point. My dad used to always say, don't come to me with a problem. Come with me with a solution. Right? I think it's great right here as well.
Michelle goes negatively, can burn bridges, negativity, sorry, need more coffee, can read this morning. Negativity can burn bridges. You don't even know you potentially have. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Kio goes, even when rejected, I still request a to connect for possible future openings. Hey, listen, I tweeted about this today. I think you should always send LinkedIn in males or LinkedIn messages. Thank you, LinkedIn messages at the end of the day. Right? So let's say, email Kio, Kio goes, hey, Taylor, thank you so much for interviewing me. I appreciate it. I love your time. If he DMed me that night, I'm going to get up in the morning, acceptives request and boom, his message is going to be the top of my inbox, right?
Top of mind, top of mind, it's marketing, it's the same thing. Hey, Herbert, what's going on? I'm happy. I'm here. Hey, Herbert, I know you sent me a message. I'm going to get to it, man. I'll probably get to it later this week, this week's crazy. William, what's going on? Good morning. Yes, absolutely. It's all about building relationships. See, now you're getting it. I can't tell you enough. The job search is about depth. It is not about width. I also tweeted today that I firmly believe if you spent one, spend enough time with one person, I think it could reap more rewards. To your job search, then if you talk to like 15 people, like, hey, how's your day going?
Do you have anything for me and you move on? Right? It's about depth. It is about depth. And that's what you need to be focused on. Michael, what's going on, man? It's good that you come and Michael, Michael's a career lurker. And Michael and I are actually hanging out this afternoon. So I'm very, very excited to see Michael. Michael is an amazing individual and amazing professional coach. If you are looking for professional coach, I highly, highly recommend Michael. He's an amazing, amazing guy. Yeah, absolutely. See, Michael again. So true. I've done this a hiring manager. Number two, number three, as long as you're kind, as long as you're giving back and as long as you're grateful, there you go.
John, what's going on, man? Got in late, stupid meeting. Hey, listen, I'm sorry, John. I'm sorry to break your heart. But that is all I got today. Yeah, thank you again for hanging out. I appreciate Taylor for the win. Thanks. Thanks, and I appreciate it, man. Listen, that's all I got today. It was short, simple to the point. I just wanted to be a little PSA for y'all this morning. Be kind, show your heart to a hiring manager, right? Be the individual that that responds back to the email and goes, hey, you know what? It's okay. It's okay. I didn't interview the best I possibly can.
So all that being said, y'all have a wonderful, wonderful morning. Cheetard, damn, I was late too. I love it. I love it. Well, y'all are wonderful. JOT absolutely. Thank you for tuning in. Hey, tomorrow morning, I have a special guest. Y'all really need to tune in. Mark on your counters, nine 30. It's my boss Alex Daydell. I'm finally getting them on the live show. He has been the staffing industry for 25 years. We're going to talk about the staffing industry, how it's evolved, what he's doing now to innovate. I think as a job seeker, you can definitely learn where the industry is going and how you can apply it to your job search.
Y'all are amazing. Thank you again for tuning in. I appreciate it. I'll see y'all tomorrow morning. Peace.