guidance counselor 2.0 · nov 17, 2020
linkedin live episode 8 - 3 things to do when you are laid off
key takeaways
- update your resume with project details and specific technologies, not just a bullet-point list.
- optimize your linkedin profile with good photo, banner, title, and recommendations from others.
- screen recruiters using 10 questions and the two-year rule: at least two years recruiting and two years in same city.
- upload your resume to job boards, especially dice.com and indeed for tech roles.
- work with recruiters first to do the heavy lifting before applying directly to job postings.
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about this episode
three essential steps to take immediately after a layoff: update your resume, optimize your linkedin, and work with recruiters.
The job search is exhausting and most people don't even know how to start! In this episode I give you 3 basic building blocks to get rolling.
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Thank you for tuning in to Guy's Council 2.0, the live edition on this Tuesday morning. Hope we all are doing well. And just want to say welcome. Thanks for tuning in as always. Jacob, I'm interviewing for a recruiter spot at Vayco in Indianapolis. Hey, Jacob, good luck, man. Good morning. Hope to be joining the family. Absolutely. Hope your interview goes well. So I want to go and talk about the job search process. And I've talked, I've broken down some topics. I've talked about personal brand. I've talked about interviewing. I've talked about culture. And now I was having a conversation with the job seeker yesterday. And somebody who just got the notice that they're being laid off.
And I was talking to this person and I was like, we need you this. You need this. You need this. You need this. And like I could see the person on the video call going crap. Right. I mean, like literally just saw them go, oh, what my word, what do I do? There's so much stuff. And so I want to break down a few just tips and tricks. Like basic bare bones, what you should do. And the first thing you should do. And again, as always, if you have questions, if you have thoughts, if you disagree with me, please comment in the chat. Or at me.
But the first thing you need to do is obviously get your resume ready. Right. I mean, I think we all can agree to that. I think the first thing, the first building block, the first cornerstone that needs to happen is get your resume ready. You know, you get the pink slip. You get called by manager this Friday and go, hey, it's your last day. You need to get your resume rolling. And so, and again, I think the resume is incredibly important. I'm not going to go in and out to resumes. I've done that already. You can check out out my podcast guidance counselor 2.0. I put all these live sessions on the podcast.
You can check it out. But essentially what you want to do is you obviously want to get your resume updated first. Make sure your resume again has project details and the specific technologies again. I'm in the software space. But specific details and technologies use to solve that project. Right. I think a lot of times in resumes, it's just a laundry list. Right. It's just 15 bullet points of things you've done. And it doesn't really tell a story. Right. Your resume is telling the story. The job search is telling a story. So you need to tell a story in your resume. The next thing you need to do is obviously get your LinkedIn updated.
Right. So many conversations about LinkedIn. Again, go back. Check it out. Guidance counselor 2.0 in the podcast app store. I talk about writing an effective LinkedIn or networking link. And I haven't gone over that. But I have podcasts out there. It's an hour long podcast on how to hack LinkedIn. So check that out. But your LinkedIn is incredibly important. Right. So check that out again. Who the hell was going on? Good morning. Good morning. Thanks for tuning in. So again, you want to walk through your LinkedIn. Make sure it's updated. Make sure you have the title. Make sure you have the cover picture. The banner.
Your profile picture looks good. Your LinkedIn tells a story as well. Right. You write out what you've done. Right. Your LinkedIn is not for you. You're probably asking, tell. I don't understand that. What do you mean my link does not for me? Your LinkedIn is not for you. It's for recruiters and hiring managers to find you. Okay. So again, be aware of that. You need to have the specific keywords in your LinkedIn in your resume to people to people can find you. Have recommendations. That's another thing. I tweeted about that today or yesterday. All the days get confused at this point. Have recommendations. Have people speak on your behalf.
Those are huge. I think testimonials are the biggest thing right now, especially when you are trying to obviously differentiate yourself within a sea of other applicants. It is a big piece of it. That's a big piece of it. So it's the greatest thing that someone needs. That's a big idea. We're going to talk about that and how you can. You can see that there's a lot of more information for you. Yeah. There's a lot of information for you, because we're not going to start talking about what you're going to do. Yeah. So that's a big source. Two of the things we're going to do is take a look.
You're going to start working through a photo. You're going to start working through a photo and we're going to work with this group, you're going to have these components. You're going to learn this. Yeah, but you're going to learn this thing so we should be in. And so you need to work with recruiters first. So you need to work with recruiters first, because recruiters can do most, if not all, the heavy lifting for you. Right? If you have your resume update, if you have your LinkedIn updated, then it's legitimately going to be very, very simple. And for them to do all the work for you.
Now, I get this question a lot. How do I screen out recruiters? I get all these recruiters. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to ask. LinkedIn user, what's up my friend? Hope you all. I don't know who you are. I don't know. If whatever I see LinkedIn user, so a LinkedIn user, hope you're doing well to my friend. You need to have some sort of screening out process with recruiters. So I have two steps. The first step, go to, go to vaco.com, backslashtaylor, check out the 10 questions. Check out the 10 questions on how to stump a recruiter. Right Alex, can you cook dinner for me on Friday?
Alex, I don't cook. So you're on your own big dog. So again, 10 questions, vaco.com, backslashtaylor. Check those out. There's 10 questions. How's about say 10 questions? 10 questions, three more coffee. 10 questions on how to stump a recruiter. So what I would do, if a recruiter message you about a job, have those 10 questions, say does email template? Just send it off to them. Right? Funny story, I spoke at, back when we used to travel. And I used to speak at meetup, those were the days. I spoke at the chatnuga.net and meetup. And how did great conversation? I shared my template. A developer calls me a year later.
I don't know if you forgot that I gave him that template, but he used the template on me. Actually LinkedIn user, yes, I need to know. Right who you are, like just say your name in the comments, I know who you are, because it just LinkedIn user again. So yes, somebody has used the 10 questions on me and I died laughing and I was able to answer most of them. And again, I'm not saying a recruiting is to answer all of them. They recruit me to answer most of them. So again, vaco.com, backslashtaylor with that. The next kind of filter I would use is the two and two world.
Now, I want to preface this by saying, most of my team got mad at me when I said this a while back. Because my team is incredible. My recruiting team in Nashville, we probably have the best recruiting team in all of it. Don't at me other vaco offices. But a lot of my team is under that two year mark. At the time when I said it, we're definitely more senior now. And the two and two role for me is at least a good kind of benchmark to weed out people. Right? So most recruiters bounce around every 18 months. To be totally frank with you, I'm very heavily commissioned based.
Recruiters are very heavily commissioned based. Right? So I'm not going to make a decision on my commission or my style is commission. Right? So that being said, if you are bad at recruiting for the most part, there's obviously circumstances that are different. They're outliers. But if you are not great at recruiting, you have to bounce around to get the base salary to make it worth your while. Now, there's going to be some people that probably wash this later that are going to be upset. I said that, but I think it's the truth. If recruiters need to look at themselves and be like, hey, why am I bouncing around?
Right? I think that's the biggest thing. Jason, yeah, what's up, dude? Jason Cincinnati, I don't have any idea. Maybe your LinkedIn is like private or something. So yeah, so make sure the two and two rules imported. So the first off, again, they've been recruiting for at least two years. The second thing that's incredibly important is have they been in that city for two years? Right? So I've been in Nashville for six, six, seven years, six years. And I'm still learning things. Every single week, I learned something new, every single week. And if some recruiters been in the market for less than two years, they don't have good enough market intel.
It's really how to educate you and guide you through the job search. I think they're outliers. Again, I don't speak in black and white. I think that working with recruiters is definitely a gray area. But as a whole, what I have seen is that you need to work as somebody who's been in the market for two years and has been at the same company for two years. So those are kind of my initial kind of building block steps that you should do when you are first laid off. The final thing that I would say is get your resume on job sites, job boards. First off, I created my own personal job board.
You can check it out. It's on medium. Think it's at tdessin.medium.com or medium.com. I don't know. But check that out. I created that because there's a slew of job boards out there. You have indeed, you have dice, you have crude builder, you have monster, you have hot zip recruiter, you have all these job boards. And so I know a lot of people want to know specifically what I'm working on. So check that out. I post about a lot on LinkedIn. If you go to my LinkedIn page, it's on my LinkedIn page. It's one of the featured articles. I tweet about it a lot. Go check out my personal job board.
But you need to have your resume uploaded to job boards. Now you're probably asking me Taylor, that sounds great. What job boards do I need to be updated to? Or what job boards do I need to follow? I think the two big ones for me, I think dice.com is in prevalent port. I'm not sponsored by dice, but dice, if you are watching, I will absolutely take sponsorship. Dice.com is huge. It is a tech-only job board. Tech-only. I mean, you can be on if you're not in tech, but I don't think it'll serve you any good. So tech-only job board, I think that's in prevalent port, dice.com.
Check that out. Indeed has been making a lot of noise lately. I also have not delved into indeed a ton, but I know a lot, there's been a lot of success there. So my team has had success placing people on indeed. And so check that out. And I think also too, I think LinkedIn, just an incredible source right now. I mean, I think, again, I talk about this a lot. Who, oh, thanks, man. Check that job board a few days ago. It's fire. Appreciate that. Oh, it is, as the kids say. So yeah, those are two things, career builder. It's very, I haven't had much success with it.
I think it's very spammy. And not great. I don't know if anyone uses monster. If you have used monster to find a job in the last two years, let's just say here. If you've got a job using monster.com, I don't have enough people watching this right now, probably to have any sort of response. But if you know anybody that has used monster, please let me know. I'm fascinating. I don't think monster's a thing anymore. So again, toaster recap, as we finish out here on this Tuesday morning, big things, get your resume updated. Again, tell a story. Give project details, right? Don't just give me a laundry list of things you've done.
Get your resume updated. Have a good profile picture. Use the featured section. Have recommendations. Again, right the body of your LinkedIn, like it's a story as well. But again, it is a abbreviated version of your resume. And again, there are other people who say differently. So take my thought for a grand assault. Third thing is, use recruiters, leverage recruiters, hit up recruiters, work with them first before submitting your resume every anywhere. And then finally, have your resumes updated on have your resumes update on the job board sites. Gregory coming in the last, my last monster job was 2005. I was still in high school in 2005.
That was a long time ago. Gregory, appreciate your body. Thanks for tuning in. Hope you're doing well. Everybody, thanks for tuning in to guys' concert 2.0. That is it. If you need anything, anything at all, shoot me an email, tailorvaco.com. Check out my website, baco.com backslashtailour for some things. Ways to get touched with me, some videos, some articles, so I'm on high and navigate the job search. And I'll be back tomorrow, nine in central tomorrow. Tomorrow's the last day of the week. My wife and I are celebrating four years together. So I will be gone Thursday and Friday a good week and I will be off social.
So I can, I'll say hang out with her in enjoy her time. So you all have a good one. Again, thank you for tuning in to guys' concert 2.0.